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August 16, 2004 at 2:33 pm #586076vladcizsolMember
Google’s current algorythem is rewarding back links and PR to sites who are spamming Blogs and Message boards. :angry:
For a prime example use your Google Tool Bar and examine the back links at this site:
http://www.on-line-casinos-online.net/
A few extremely talkative people here at CAP may have noticed they went from a small handful of back links to a bunch because of all the backlinks from their message board posts.
I cannot see how Google thinks they are on the right track by dropping thousands of legitimate links in favor of blog spammers and message board wind bags.
:dozing:August 16, 2004 at 2:40 pm #653456vladcizsolMemberOh by the way Google is crediting PR0 pages as backlinks if they are Blog or Message Board Pages!!!
They do this while NOT showing backlinks from PR4 – PR6 pages with similar content or themes!!!!
WTF do they put in the coffee in the Google programmers break room?
August 16, 2004 at 3:01 pm #653462AnonymousInactiveGoogle is not showing all backlinks on their link: search right now–just some of them. My guess is that the higher PR links are still valuable; Google is just making it harder to find the PR link partners from some of your competitor sites.
August 16, 2004 at 3:12 pm #653464vladcizsolMemberYep that was one of the things I pointed out. They ARE showing garbage back links though. What’s the damned logic of that?
If they don’t credit links from sites that feature the same type of content or theme then what is the point of crediting back links at all?
I would think it would only make sense for “Slots” sites to want to direct their visitors to other quality “Slots” sites. And links of these type should be credited and valued.
What value is there if a site about “Cheese” links to a “Slots” site? Would a visitor searching for aged Cheddar really be interested in Five Reel Slots?
I cannot see the logic of Googles thinking here.
August 16, 2004 at 3:16 pm #653465AnonymousInactiveI still have 1,540 links to GAMESANDCASINO and they are a mix of postings on boards over the years and there are also a lot of real links in there – one way links at that.
I don’t blog.
This has been the case for a long time, years. It has never affected my PR in any way. In my case, this is nothing new.
http://www.google.com/search?q=gamesandcasino&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
Changes in my PR are always in step with changes I make to the site.
August 16, 2004 at 3:18 pm #653466vladcizsolMemberOk to further illustrate what I am saying here is the first four back links google is crediting to that “Online Casinos” site I had listed above:
PR Fuel – A Service of eReleases: Comment on How Many Press …
PR Fuel – A Service of eReleases. Comments: How Many Press Releases Does It Take
To Get To The Center Of Bad News? Hello guys, i have to say this.. …
http://www.prfuel.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=39 – 101k – Cached – Similar pagesDSP Music Syndicate: Comment on
DSP Music Syndicate. Comments: Hi! Nice site! Please visit our site also
http://www.someviagra.info/ . (Viagra) see you soon. Posted …
http://www.dsperado.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=6 – 101k – Cached – Similar pagesNutzso News:
Nutzso News. …
http://www.nutzso.com/MTblog/archives/001932.html – 101k – Cached – Similar pages9mm Gazette: I must give Thanks!!
9mm Gazette. News and Reports from the Edges of Polite Society Occasional
Updates from the Free and Independant Republic of Montana. …
9mmgazette.weblogs.us/archives/005299.html – 101k – Cached – Similar pagesUh… Maybe I am not as search engine savy as Googles engineers, but tell me what do sites about “Press Releases” , “DSP Music”, “Pschiatric News” and “9mm Hand Guns” have to do with ‘Online Casinos”?
August 16, 2004 at 3:32 pm #653467vladcizsolMemberNot talking about you Dom or honest webmasters I am referring to people who are specifically making posts and blogs all over the place to cheat the system.
August 16, 2004 at 3:44 pm #653468AnonymousInactiveNo offense taken – my posts have been all over the industry for years. I don’t post in unrelated fora.
What I wonder is why this has never affected my PR but is affecting theirs.
Must be more than just posting…
August 16, 2004 at 3:49 pm #653469AnonymousInactiveSorry to butt in on this but it’s interesting because on google ONLY, I am linked to things that I’ve never even heard of. I’ve been around for a few years but have never posted anywhere that wasn’t gaming related. Is it possible that the owners are somehow back linking to me?
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Nevermind, they must have updated it finally. lolAugust 16, 2004 at 8:26 pm #653479AnonymousInactiveMid-july Google changed the what backlinks they show. The command is virtually useless now.
I don’t think the backlinks shown have anything to do with being “credited” though… in fact, I don’t think the backlinks shown have anything to do with anything. In general, a selection of a page’s worst links are shown, while very very few of its best links. Many pages with only several PR5+ backlinks end up showing none.
When I say “virtually useless” there are a tiny few bits of info there now… you can see some super low quality sites that link to you that you know you don’t want to link to in a million years; you can see other domains that rely heavily on message board and blog links. In general, if your links have gone up a lot since mid July, that is NOT good. It means your percentage of very low quality links greatly outweighs your decent links.
On the other hand, it looks like a results tweak last week favored sites with tons of message board links, so maybe the display of links does mean google is favoring volume of links right now over quality of links, but that sort of favoring one thing over another is always changing.
Anyway, looking at backlinks used to be a very valuable thing to do. It’s a complete waste now. Use Yahoo instead…
linkdomain:http://www.site.comAugust 16, 2004 at 10:15 pm #653484AnonymousInactiveWow, you’re right…..yahoo is much more accurate. Thanks for the info
August 16, 2004 at 11:09 pm #653486AnonymousInactiveWell, there I have 157 links and most of them are internal links.
That includes some that I haven’t had hooked to the navigation for years – like virtual casino download. Yikes!
Maybe that explains some of the trickle traffic that always goes to programs one dropped ages ago.
Then they have the psychic connection, which I haven’t had for almost 3 years, and they have a wrong description with it. I don’t even know what the description is.
Then it lists internal index pages for games…
And the whole thing is NOT AT ALL current! This is some old s#!t, and the new stuff is missing.
August 17, 2004 at 7:24 am #653509AnonymousInactiveYes, a key problem with Yahoo is that parts of the index are hopelessly stale.
Also the link command I gave should (theoretically) show all the links pointing to a domain.
For all links pointing to a PAGE
link:http://www.site.comFor links to that page minus those from the domain
link:http://www.site.com/ -site:http://www.site.comAugust 17, 2004 at 1:15 pm #653515AnonymousInactiveWell, if I type it in that way I don’t exist but for the index page.
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